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he was more aggressive nan obama was. in in situation, especially, president obama should have lifted the face up and given him face time, but he chose to -- gerri: what about the audience though. >> he did. he spoke into the camera. you look into a camera, and you talk to them. he did that. he just didn't do it enough. gerri: lrpt. republican national committee came out with this, what they call the smirk. i want to show it to you. this is fascinating. listen to this. we're having a few issues. >> i'll talk about it. i know what you're talking about. it's interesting that they would call that the smirk because romney -- gerri: right there. >> yes, romney's the one famous for the smirk. it's like they are trying to turn the tails saying, look what obama did now. he does smirk, but his smirk is a tightening of the mouth, his way of saying i don't agree with you, and roleny keeps that smirk on the face all the time. both need to work on the neutral expression. that means what do i look like when the other person is speaking
he was more aggressive nan obama was. in in situation, especially, president obama should have lifted the face up and given him face time, but he chose to -- gerri: what about the audience though. >> he did. he spoke into the camera. you look into a camera, and you talk to them. he did that. he just didn't do it enough. gerri: lrpt. republican national committee came out with this, what they call the smirk. i want to show it to you. this is fascinating. listen to this. we're having a few...
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in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in this. one other point, the moderator. i know jim lehrer has taken a lot of abuse because he lost control of the debate. we want the moderate enough to be in control. why should be in control of the debate? the debate ought to be about the participants. if the moderator ever in the future says, we have got to stop this and move on, i would like to hear one candidate say, why? besides we have to have six segments instead of five. >> the criticism of jim lehrer is -- from time to time, obama would look at him saying, help me, jim. mitt is not playing fair. >> in that
in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in...
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obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will be this. it will be in a town hall. he has got more ability to connect with an audience than romney. he will have an advantage in the second debate that he did not have been the first. >> would you rather be good or lucky? 7.8% unemployment rate. that is pretty good news. >> unless you look at the actual numbers. if you look at those with new jobs, about 114,000. you have to have 150,000 to stay at the same rate. what has been happening is you have people leaving the work force, retiring, or read a wait a minute, nina -- or when you become chronically unemployed, over the one year
obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will...
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obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are they leaking it? >> i don't know. because they're trying to hold onto their people, they're undisciplined, i have no idea. number two, zingers don't exist in a vacuum. it's not just coming up with some funny lines.
obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin...
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at obama when obama was talking to him, much better than when obama was talking and looking down, like he was being lectured. i think we have to talk about the debate and the debate rules and the moderator. you know, the idea -- they were very excited, the debate commissioned about the 15-minute pods to allow more exchange. but it allowed more, longer speeches and talking points. jim lehrer, a man for whom i have tremendous esteem, seemed to lose control of the debate, occasionally. he seemed to throw something out there to keep the conversation going, sometimes it seemed to be helping obama, like saying, you are for a balanced approach of tax cuts and spending -- tax increases and spending cuts, and that really seemed to lose some control. as far as the issues were concerned, there were a couple of -- i can't say whoppers, but there were a couple of points. one was medicare. and on that issue, romney was right. when he said that $716 billion in cuts was going to affect benefits, the fact is, it would affect benefits, the actuary says, let me see if i can find tin practice, providers c
at obama when obama was talking to him, much better than when obama was talking and looking down, like he was being lectured. i think we have to talk about the debate and the debate rules and the moderator. you know, the idea -- they were very excited, the debate commissioned about the 15-minute pods to allow more exchange. but it allowed more, longer speeches and talking points. jim lehrer, a man for whom i have tremendous esteem, seemed to lose control of the debate, occasionally. he seemed...
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if obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually it's a lengthy description but, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> what a machine, the etch a sketch. but one question for governor romney -- h how do you draw battle lines if they're all going to be dotted? where do you stand? >> i can't figure it out. >> well, you know walls of obfuscation, my friend. the question is, can romney make this pivot, which seem to be towards the center at this point in the game, and win over independent voters? >> look, there are very few really big moments in campaign. last night was one of those moments. there are a lot of people who have not been watching as much tape as your producers apparently have. give romney his due. he had a very compelling night. he crisply delivered his points. he was conversational. he had command of the policy and the facts. and it's up to president obama now to put him to where his record and
if obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually it's a lengthy description but, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> what a machine, the etch a sketch. but one question for governor romney -- h how do you draw battle lines if they're all going to be dotted? where do you stand? >> i can't figure it out. >> well, you know walls of obfuscation, my friend. the...
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joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all kinds of arguments from obama. while obama can wait until the performance wears off and people forget how stumbling and hesitant and detached he was, what will remain is the ground that he ceded to romney. >> greta: i thought it was significant that 67 million people watched this, the largest number since i think 1992. chfts a measurement to -- which was a measurement to me of the enthusiasm for the election. i don't know which way it will fall. but it showed interest by the country. >> i think the same reason that they watched it
joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all...
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what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> that was friday right after the jobs numbers came out. i'll point out two meaningful things about those jobs numbers. one, you recall when his stimulus plan came out somebody in his administration said with the stimulus plan. it was never a promise, a projection. symbolically it's meaningful this is now below 8%. also now it's fallen for the first time not because fewer people are looking for jobs. actually, the number of people looking for jobs r
what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down...
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obama and ann romney. [applause] one of the great privileges of working for the commission on presidential debates is to work with jim lehrer. this is the 12th time he will moderate a debate. i'd like to introduce him now. [applause] >> let me be the very last to welcome you to this very important event. show of hands -- have many of you have been in this hall before? you know the rules. absolute silence. for those of you who watched on television, you know the rules are different for these events. in the early days when it restarted addressing the audience of a hall, i would say, ok, you make noise. hiss and boo and applaud and cheer. i will make you stand up and camille you in front of the whole world. i do not do that anymore. -- and humiliate you in front of the whole world. i do not do that anymore. you know the drill. you know how important this event is. it is important because it is about millions of people watching this event tonight. they are watching to make a decision on the most important deci
obama and ann romney. [applause] one of the great privileges of working for the commission on presidential debates is to work with jim lehrer. this is the 12th time he will moderate a debate. i'd like to introduce him now. [applause] >> let me be the very last to welcome you to this very important event. show of hands -- have many of you have been in this hall before? you know the rules. absolute silence. for those of you who watched on television, you know the rules are different for...
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democrats insist it is not president obama's fault. president obama's fault. who gets the blame for [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the
democrats insist it is not president obama's fault. president obama's fault. who gets the blame for [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so...
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barack obama has got to have a completely different air about him. he's got to be a combatant, not a visitor. >> reporter: president obama and mr. romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just north of the border near birkz sbee, arizona. this word comes from mexican police as they've arrested two people. >>> d.c. police confirm they're investigating allegations that a guard sexually assaulted an inmate. sources tell wtop radio the allegations are that a guard removed an inmate from his cell, took him to an area where there are no security cameras and assaulted him. those sources also say a second guard witnessed the assault but did not report it. >>> tonight
barack obama has got to have a completely different air about him. he's got to be a combatant, not a visitor. >> reporter: president obama and mr. romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent...
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we'll hear from michelle obama. doesn't see eye to eye with ann romney about the rigors of campaigning, details on that ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. the nation's largest 4g network. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. at&t. rethink possible. >>> the debate hall at the university of denver. debate night in america, anticipation building at the site of tonight's face-off. building also by the way here at the cnn election center. we'll hear shortly from the first lady of the united states, michelle obama. stand by for that. we're also not that far away from tonight's debate. take a look at the clock. you see what's going on. when president obama and governor romney appear on stage together, at the university of denver, jim lehrer of pbs will be the moderator for what could be potentially the most indepth and lively debates in memory. we'll zero in on domestic policy with a new format that allows for more interaction between the two candidates and more time to discuss a single top
we'll hear from michelle obama. doesn't see eye to eye with ann romney about the rigors of campaigning, details on that ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. the nation's largest 4g network. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. at&t. rethink possible. >>> the debate hall at the university of denver. debate night in america, anticipation building at the site of tonight's face-off. building also by the way here at the cnn election center. we'll hear...
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but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney tonight. in the end, we've seen how people are going to vote in november. we've got two more debates to do. i think you'll see a different barack obama in two weeks. >> joe is going to be with us next week for the vice presidential debate, giving us analysis then. >> thanks so much. >>> you know, it would take hours for a full debate fact check, so we're just going to look at two, courtesy of the associated press. president obama suggested that the united states will save money by winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the truth? the wars were funded with borrowed money, so ending them o
but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney...
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if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain.
if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want...
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obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress bute basically going to ask for mor. time to finish the job. t the romney camp says this is where their guy is going to be tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight. >> chris, thank you. >> good evening. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs moderating this debate. >> i'm jim lehrer and welcome you to the first of the 2012l presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former, massachusetts governor mitt romney the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sp
obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress bute basically going to ask for mor. time to finish the job. t the romney camp says this is where their guy is going to be tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will...
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here, senator obama is over there. the two don't look the same. that means i'm thinking about the lord. and i challenge all the voters of this state who profess to believe in christ how can you vote from such a faith shake devoid? >> i don't need him lecturing me about christianity. that's why i have a pastor, that's why i have my bible. that's whoo i have my own prayer. and i don't think any of you are particularly interested in having him lecture you about your faith. you're interested in solving problems and jobs. i'm running to be united states senator. >> obama had tougher competition in 2008 and displayed weaknesses during the primaries, a tendency to ramble and sometimes distant. there was a moment in south carolina when brian williams asked him how he would respond to a terrorist attack. >> senator obama, if god forbid a thousand times while we were gather here tonight two american cities had been hit by terrorists and further learned it had been the work of al qaeda, how would you change the u.s. military stan
here, senator obama is over there. the two don't look the same. that means i'm thinking about the lord. and i challenge all the voters of this state who profess to believe in christ how can you vote from such a faith shake devoid? >> i don't need him lecturing me about christianity. that's why i have a pastor, that's why i have my bible. that's whoo i have my own prayer. and i don't think any of you are particularly interested in having him lecture you about your faith. you're interested...
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just moments from now, we expect president obama and his republican challenger, mitt romney, to take the stage for the first of three presidential debates. both candidates have spent most the cameras to prepare for tonight's debate. for governor romney, he has logged plenty of debate time during the gop primaries but he has not gone head-to-head the presidency untillnow. tonight's face-off will focus on domessic policy, including health care, the role of governments, and the number one issue on voters' minds, the economy. you can expect both candidates to have a say on the 8.1% of the unemployment rate and the national debt. keep in mind with early voting under way in 10 states already, many americans have already cast their ballots. still governor romney and presideet obama have plenty of opportunity to hurt or help their campaign in the next nine minutes. no cheering, no. now, the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> good evening from maaness arena at the university of denver in denver colorado. i am jim lehrer of pbs news hour, and i welcome the new to the first of the 2012 presidenti
just moments from now, we expect president obama and his republican challenger, mitt romney, to take the stage for the first of three presidential debates. both candidates have spent most the cameras to prepare for tonight's debate. for governor romney, he has logged plenty of debate time during the gop primaries but he has not gone head-to-head the presidency untillnow. tonight's face-off will focus on domessic policy, including health care, the role of governments, and the number one issue on...
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obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have go
obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a...
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they think obama didn't study. they think obama didn't care enough. they think obama whatever. as long as romney shows up as he shows up last night, they don't have a chance. >> what do you think, juan? >> you know what? obama definitely has to be more energetic. he's got to take -- present fire and fight and bring the argument to mr. romney. >> he needs to be the old obama from that 2007 speech. >> yeah. >> put some lies out there. >> bill maher and chris rock said they want the old obama back. >> you said that earlier, i believe. the georgetown university professor, michael eric bison said that was the whole problem, that barak obama didn't want to come off as angry. and those videos and he blamed it on fox news and sean hannity for airing it, ruined the mojo for the president. >> we might have found out why president obama was having such a hard time last night. can you roll the video of the last one we have lined up? >> keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. [ laughter ] they're making me do my home homework. >> waaa. making me do my homework. i don't know. look, if
they think obama didn't study. they think obama didn't care enough. they think obama whatever. as long as romney shows up as he shows up last night, they don't have a chance. >> what do you think, juan? >> you know what? obama definitely has to be more energetic. he's got to take -- present fire and fight and bring the argument to mr. romney. >> he needs to be the old obama from that 2007 speech. >> yeah. >> put some lies out there. >> bill maher and chris...
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chris: will barack obama do well in the town hall format? we asked the matthews meter, 12 of our regulars, will obama make effective use of the stuff he kept off the table in the first debate? 10 say yes and two say no. andrea, he couldn't do worse. >> on "hardball" the night after the debate, you did a better debate. chris: i had the gift of hindsight. is he going to do it this thursday? >> the format is actually better for him because he'll be talking to people and reacting to them but at the same time i don't know there's ever as good a format as the first one which was free sailing. he had unlimited time to make his points and respond to the agenda. chris: the other guy proved how much time he can take. >> the most memorable moments in all the debates i've watched have happened in this town hall meeting format and most of them have involved body language. the limitations of this format is that it is tougher to get angry and respond in a tough way to your opponent because people might say -- might grown and say they didn't like it. >> the
chris: will barack obama do well in the town hall format? we asked the matthews meter, 12 of our regulars, will obama make effective use of the stuff he kept off the table in the first debate? 10 say yes and two say no. andrea, he couldn't do worse. >> on "hardball" the night after the debate, you did a better debate. chris: i had the gift of hindsight. is he going to do it this thursday? >> the format is actually better for him because he'll be talking to people and...
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the obama campaign knows it. and i think you're going to -- i'll be curious to see tonight, who says the words -- the number "47" more. president obama or mitt romney in defending himself, if you will. who's saying 100% more, which has been the romney line on this. so ultimately, i feel like that is the sort of stylistic substance, if you will combine it, if you will, that i'm watching tonight and seeing how romney does this. >> chuck, in terms of how much that 47% remark hurt mr. romney, i think part of the reason that it hurt so badly is because it dovetailed with the personal attributes of mr. romney in terms of him being a really wealthy guy. the questions about his own tax status and things like that. the question of how much his tax plans will help wealthy people like himself. is there any sign that the romney campaign has come up with sort of an anecdote to their 47% problem. a different way to explain that, other than the, what i think have been sort of weak responses to trying to explain it away over the
the obama campaign knows it. and i think you're going to -- i'll be curious to see tonight, who says the words -- the number "47" more. president obama or mitt romney in defending himself, if you will. who's saying 100% more, which has been the romney line on this. so ultimately, i feel like that is the sort of stylistic substance, if you will combine it, if you will, that i'm watching tonight and seeing how romney does this. >> chuck, in terms of how much that 47% remark hurt...
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the conventions were great on that for obama. and so you could see coming into this, in which they say, look, we are ahead, you are the president, we don't want you out there waving around the 47 percent number. be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,
the conventions were great on that for obama. and so you could see coming into this, in which they say, look, we are ahead, you are the president, we don't want you out there waving around the 47 percent number. be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged...